Esher demos for 2018?

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  1. James19 says:

    Do you have any links to the sources or material? I can only find a couple things on the Steve Hoffman Forums but nothing about Richard Porter

  2. Unknown says:

    I'd have to go back and look..but the faded down and back Helter Skelter was not part of the 27 minute version. IIRC.

    Bern

  3. wogew says:

    James19: Facebook comment by Richard Porter. And recent info from anonymous source known to me.

  4. Charlie Ricci says:

    I have a bootleg CD version of the Esher Sessions that are of fairly good quality. I like listening to them but the finished versions are better. They are worth hearing for educational purposes. I love the acoustic version of "While My Guitar Gently Weeps." It's the one entry that rivals the original.

  5. S e as garotas que erraram says:

    I didn't know Sour Milk Sea was broadcasted in a higher quality. Isn't the "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" demo from the Esher sessions? They released a music video for that.

    • Unknown says:

      Two separate recordings. The one with the video is take 1 with an orchestra overdub by George Martin. The Esher demos is nice but not as good as the basic take 1, IMHO.

  6. Hans Bruun says:

    What's The New Mary Jane – the version included on Anthology 3 is a studio version, not the demo.

  7. Daryl says:

    This is the greatest thing that has ever happened. 🙂

  8. Martin says:

    I think George Martin once said that the supposedly 'legendary' 20+ minutes version of Helter Skelter was incredibly monotonous and boring. That it was basically like a much longer version of the plodding Anthology 3 version and a far cry from the blistering rock track off the White Album.

  9. James Peet says:

    It's also worth noting that the studio demo of, "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" was edited, I think for the aborted "Sessions" album in 1985, so that it had the end coda repeated as it faded. The unedited version actually had George playing each string with the Aminor chord from 6th to 1st string and then doing a few strums, after which George can be heard saying, "Let's hear that back". It would be nice if the unedited version was released on this new project.

    I love the demos from George's house. They don't seem weighed down like the final studio incarnations, though I love the White Album very much.

    We'd better get saving!!!

  10. CrackinThunder says:

    Great news about Giles Martin working on the White Album!!! Hope it is a remix! A deluxe edition could include the DVD Hey Jude rehearsal footage made around that time in better quality that the bootleg that is out. That would really kick up the sales for sure. There are nice alternate takes on some of the white album tracks beyond the acoustic demos. Listen to the subtle differences of Back in the USSR on the Beatles Circus de Solei"Love" album.

  11. Popper says:

    No disrespect intended, but this is a non-story.

    "plans about a fiftieth anniversary deluxe release have not been finalised. We have no idea whether a new mix is in the cards, whether outtakes like the 27 minutes long version of "Helter Skelter" (it was faded down and then up again on the original record) will appear, or whether working versions or demos will be made available. In fact, a fiftieth anniversary release hasn't even been announced"

  12. Ukuleleman says:

    This is pretty exciting news! Those Acoustic Guitar demos from Esher would make a very pretty sounding Beatles Unplugged Album. I wonder if a demo of I Will from the Esher sessions Exists? Or possibly Look at Me, as John has said he wrote it in India?

  13. Ukuleleman says:

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  14. Unknown says:

    I really would enjoy a complete remastering and remixing. Whitology just didn't do it for me.

  15. Matthew says:

    The latest edition of the UK's music-mag, 'Mojo' doesn't confirm that there is a 'White Album' reissue on the way, but in a short piece, it does leave me (at least) with the impression that it's 'all systems go'… It states that the album's "expected to be formulated similarly to last year's Sgt. Pepper's reissue, suggesting fascinating outtakes could be included. Regular Fabs remixer Giles Martin told the BBC the album was when the group,'started becoming indulgent… there are 70 takes of Sexy Sadie, for instance." The Mojo piece also states that there'll be an expanded edition of the 'Imagine' album out this year too.

  16. Gerry says:

    For what it's worth there are these posts on Richard Porter's website ( blog.beatlesinlondon.com )

    JANUARY 11, 2018

    White Album Reissue Update – Esher Demos to be Included?

    As reported on this blog a while ago, Giles Martin is working on a special 50th Anniversary Box set of the ‘White Album’.

    I’ve been told by numerous sources that at least of some the ‘Esher Demos’ will be included. These were done by the Beatles at George’s place, Kinfauns, in late May 1968, before recordings of the album were started at Abbey Road Studios. The demos have been widely bootlegged over the years, but only a very few ended up on ‘Beatles Anthology 3’. It now seems that many more will emerge on the box set, which will be released in November.

    Stay tuned to the blog for further exciting news on this project :>)

    NOVEMBER 21, 2017

    ‘White Album’ Reissue Next Year?

    I’ve been told by a very good source that Giles Martin IS working on a re-issue of the ‘White Album’ for its 50th anniversary next year. It was originally released on November 21st 1968.

    As with the Sgt Pepper re-issue, it’s likely the album will be remixed, and include loads of out-takes. Hopefully these will include the demos made at George’s place, Kinfauns, before the album was recorded.

    Giles Martin has been at Abbey Road Studios in the last few days, almost certainly working on this project.

    More news when we get it!

    SEPTEMBER 2, 2017

    Ringo Starr Hints at White Album Reissue

    After the success of the reissue of Sgt Pepper, Ringo has said he would like to see the same treatment given to the ‘White Album’. He said “I think Giles should redo that. I don’t know why not. And ‘Abbey Road.’

    For the full interview see:

    latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-et-ms-ringo-starr-beatles-sgt-pepper-remix-white-album-20170831-story.html

  17. Ariel C says:

    Interesting theory about Ringo's tape being the main source on the bootlegs. I always thought it was John's offline tape as broadcasted on the LLT, which begs the question, would it be slightly different mixes per each source? The While My Guitar Gently Weeps – beginning part only- was played during the George Harrison "bio", oddly enough the missing bit from the bootleg source. The Sour Milk Sea demo though was partially broadcast on BBC Radio a few years ago. I think THAT demo was a Harrison/Lomax recording. Anyways, I hope this project goes well. We certainly would like upgrades of the full 4-track reels… and yes, the 27 minute Helter Skelter version is similar to the Anthology take.

  18. db says:

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  19. david says:

    Would be nice to see a "deluxe " edition. Hopefully the complete studio version of Not Guilty ( not the bastardized, edited version that was on Anthology )will be included . The electric "outfake " of Sour Milk Sea is actually pretty well done. Wouldn't mind seeing that on there as well. Lots of possibilities. A stand alone version of The Esher Tapes would be preferable.

  20. Martin says:

    The 'unfaded' version of the White Album's 'Helter Skelter' was used for the 'Rock Band' game in 2009. It's the same length, only without the fade out/in. I hope John's demo of 'Good Night' surfaces

  21. db says:

    Outtakes and demos, yes, but no remix necessary

  22. CrackinThunder says:

    Remix is necessary….in many cases it is a layered album with lots of mix downs that have reduced the fidelity and made some tracks not have much dynamic range or individual vocal or instrumental definition. Certainly a song like Blackbird is not necessarily going to strongly benefit…with fly-in additions of chirping on the final mix (can they source that original bird calls to fly it in again?). If you listen to the first CD issue of the Rubber Soul (remixed) and Revolver (remastered) album, the Yellow Submarine Songtrack (all remixed), the difference between remix and remaster is clearly evident even to my aged and hearing challenged ears.

  23. piper909 says:

    I'd love to hear a remixed and expanded White LP reissue a la Sgt. Pepper as much as any fan. And I hope late 2018 brings us exactly that, Esher demos and all. However, please let us not forget or overlook the need to take a few steps back as well — what about a similar deluxe reissue project for Revolver, a truly ground-breaking album at release and one that any other group would rightfully regard as its masterpiece? Had the Beatles disbanded in late 1966, Revolver would still stand as a testament to their genius. many fans and critics still rate revolver as among the best, or THE best, Beatles LP. I would like to see 1966 given its due as well as 1967, 1968, or 1969.

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